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Onegus

Onegus

Un homme parmi les Hommes.

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  • Onegus Onegus 22 novembre 2010 01:09

    mmarvin : « Personne n’a prétendu que Hanjour était un Top Gun. Tout ce que l’on savait, c’est qu’il était capable de tenir un avion en l’air et d’effectuer des manoeuvres basiques. Peut-être a-il reçu l’assistance d’un autre pirate lors du crash, cela, on ne le saura jamais.


    - Hanjour n’avait jamais piloté de gros porteur et la manœuvre effectuée pour atteindre le pentagone était tout sauf basique, et même considérée comme quasi impossible à réaliser par un pilote expérimentée sur ce type d’appareil... L’idée d’un »assistant-pilote" est juste débile.

    Bref, nounours n’a plus rien à dire mais il l’ouvre quand même, le nez dans son caca, il la ramène encore. Pathétique...


  • Onegus Onegus 21 novembre 2010 01:54

    Ces cadavres sont ceux d’employés du Pentagone qui travaillaient dans la zone d’impact. Ce que fait ici mmarvin est une manipulation proprement infecte qui donne une idée du niveau de perversité de ce type. On voit jusqu’où sont capable d’aller les désinformateurs de son espèce pour protéger les mensonges de la VO... Les mêmes qui viennent vous parler de respect des victimes n’hésitent pas à instrumentaliser les images de leurs dépouilles à des fins de propagande... Bien plus que les images, ce sont eux qui sont à gerber.



  • Onegus Onegus 21 novembre 2010 01:35

    mmarvin : On peut aussi leur montrer en quoi les truthers sont des personnes qui, sous des allures gentilles et ouvertes, sont disposées à insulter facilement et violemment leur contradicteur s’il a le malheur de mettre en doute le Dogme Truthisme. Onegus en est un exemple parfait.

    Non, non, je n’insulte pas mes détracteurs, je n’insulte que les canailles qui emploient des méthodes abjectes et insultent la mémoire des victimes en utilisant les images de leurs dépouilles pour véhiculer leurs mensonges. Ce genre de personnage ne méritent aucun respect et doivent être dénoncés pour ce qu’ils sont : des crapules prêt à descendre au rang de sous-humains pour protéger des criminels. Quand ils poussent en plus la perversité jusqu’à se donner l’apparence d’une inoffensive peluche pour enfants, je crois qu’on atteint les limites de l’abjection.


  • Onegus Onegus 21 novembre 2010 01:15
    C’est ça, nounours, parle-nous de croyance, toi qui est dans une démarche strictement religieuse dans ton rapport aux thèses officielles du 11-Septembre... En attendant, toujours pas de sources, hein ? 

    Puisque tu aimes l’anglais, voici un article, avec sources, démontrant par A+B que Hanjour a utilisé une faille au sein de la FAA pour « acheter » sa qualif commerciale auprès d’un contractant privé, qu’il n’a JAMAIS piloté de gros porteur avant le 11/9 et qu’il était totalement incapable d’effecteur les manœuvres attribuées aux vol 77 pour venir frapper le pentagone.
    Tout licencié qu’il pouvait être, Hanjour peut légitimement être qualifié de pilote amateur.

    Why Hani Hanjour was not at the helm of Flight 77

    According to the Washington Post, “aviation sources said the plane [Flight 77] was flown with extraordinary skill, making it highly likely that a trained pilot was at the helm.”14 However, if this is true it poses major problems for the official 9/11 narrative, because there is overwhelming evidence that Hani Hanjour, the terrorist who supposedly flew Flight 77 into the side of the Pentagon, was even less qualified than Atta and Shehhi. Let us review this evidence.

    Barely five feet tall and slight of build, Hani Hanjour was a native of Taif, a popular resort city in Saudi Arabia. By all accounts, he was shy and mild-mannered, to the point of being timid. Hanjour was religious, but apparently not very ambitious. As a young man he cultivated no dreams of flying airplanes, but aspired only to become a flight attendant. Later, his older brother Abulrahman encouraged him to aim higher. Even so, as we are about to discover, Hani’s aptitude for learning was rather limited. 

    His older brother Abulrahman was also responsible for Hani’s first and second trips to the US. His brother was in the business of exporting used American cars to Saudi Arabia, which involved frequent travel back and forth. For this reason Abulrahman had connections in the states and in the spring of 1996 he arranged for Hani to stay in Miramar, Florida with a couple he had known : Susan and Adnan Khalil. After his arrival in America Hanjour roomed with the family for at least a month. Later, Susan Khalil described him as socially inept, with poor English, and “really bad hygiene.”15 Susan said her husband had to remind Hani to bathe and change his clothes. 

    In April 1996 Hani moved to Oakland, California, where he studied English for several months at Holy Names College. During this period he lived with a family who described him as a “quiet, introverted individual.”16 While in Oakland Hanjour enrolled at the Sierra Academy of Aeronautics, but attended only one half-hour class and never returned. In the fall Hanjour moved to Scottsdale, Arizona and enrolled at Cockpit Resource Management (CRM), a flight school where he trained for three months. But the results were less than satisfactory. According to Duncan K.M. Hastie, owner of the school, Hani was “a weak student” who was “wasting our resources.”17 Hani withdrew from the program, then later returned in 1997 for several more weeks of instruction. This “on and off” pattern of behavior was typical of the man. Hastie says that over the next three years Hanjour called him at least twice a year, and each time wanted to return for more training. By this point, however, it was obvious to Hastie that Hani had no business in a cockpit. Hastie refused to let him come back. “I would recognize his voice,” Hastie said. “He was always talking about wanting more training. Yes, he wanted to be an airline pilot. That was his stated goal. That’s why I didn’t allow him to come back. I thought ‘You’re never going to make it’.”18

    Rejected by CRM, Hanjour enrolled at nearby Sawyer Aviation, also located in the Phoenix area. Wes Fults, a former instructor at Sawyer, later described it as the school of last resort. Said Fults : “it was a commonly held truth that, if you failed anywhere else, go to Sawyer.” Fults remembers training Hanjour, whom he described as “a neophyte.He says Hani “got overwhelmed with the instruments” in the school’s flight simulator. “He had only the barest understanding of what the instruments were there to do,” said Fults. “He [Hanjour] used the simulator three or four times, then disappeared like a fog.”19 I must emphasize to the reader that I’m not making this up. Other accounts in Newsday, the New York Times, as well as stories by the major networks, all corroborate the portrait of general ineptitude. Even the FBI confirms the basic story.20 

    Yet, somewhere along the way Hani qualified for a pilot’s license. According to the FBI, this occurred in April 1999 while Hani was enrolled at Arizona Aviation, another of the numerous flight schools that he attended.21 The FBI document offers no further details. Nor does the 9/11 Commission Report, which only briefly mentions the school. The pertinent line reads : [in 2000] “Hani began refresher training at his old school, Arizona Aviation.”22 Notice, again, the implied pattern of “on-again, off-again” behavior. 

    Although Hani Hanjour arrived sooner and spent more time in the US than the other alleged hijackers, he never mastered the English language. Hani never learned to write English and, by all accounts, his spoken English was atrocious. Incidentally, this sets Hani apart from Mohamed Atta and the other better-educated members of the Hamburg cell. It also raises another red flag, because in the US fluency in English is required to obtain a pilot’s license. Hani’s poor English and his sub-standard piloting skills actually prompted one flight school, Jet Tech, to question the authenticity of Hani’s FAA-approved pilot’s license. Jet Tech was another of the schools in the Phoenix area where Hani sought continuing instruction. Peggy Chevrette, Jet Tech’s operation manager, later told FOX News : “I couldn’t believe that he had a license of any kind with the skills that he had.”23 She explained that Hani’s English was so bad it took him five hours to complete an oral exam that should normally have taken about two hours. Nor did Hani’s answers impress the Jet Tech flight instructor ; on the contrary. The instructor’s evaluation notes that the “student [Hani] made numerous errors during [his] performance…[and displayed] a lack of understanding of some basic concepts. The same was true during review of systems knowledge. The root cause is most likely due to the student’s lack of experience.”24 

    Early in 2001, Chevrette contacted the FAA to convey her concerns about Hani. In fact, she called a number of times. Eventually a federal inspector, John Anthony, showed up at the school and examined Hani’s credentials. But Hani’s papers were in order and Anthony took no further action. The inspector even suggested that the school provide Hani with an interpreter. This surprised Chevrette because it was a violation of FAA rules. “The thing that really concerned me,” she later told FOX News, “Was that John had a conversation in the hallway with Hani and realized what his skills were at that point and his ability to speak English.”25 Evidently, Anthony also sat-in on a class with Hani. 

    FOX News was unable to reach Anthony for comment, but FAA spokesperson Laura Brown defended the FAA employee. “There was nothing about the pilot’s actions” she said, “to signal criminal intent or that would have caused us to alert law enforcement.”26 This is true enough. The Jet Tech staff never suspected that Hani was a terrorist. According to Marilyn Ladner, vice-president Pan Am International, the company that owned Jet Tech, “It was more of a very typical instructional concern that ‘you really shouldn’t be in the air’.”27 However, at least one FAA inspector, Michael Gonzales, disagrees. Gonzales, who is also the president of a professional organization that represents FAA inspectors, told the Associated Press that “There should have been a stop right then and there.” Gonzales thinks Hani should have been re-examined, as required by law.28 Although Pan Am dissolved its Jet Tech operation shortly after 9/11, a former employee who knew Hani expressed amazement “that he [Hani] could have flown into the Pentagon. [since] He could not fly at all.”29 

    According to the official narrative, in the weeks before the September 11 attack at least two of the alleged hijackers, i.e., Hani Hanjour and Ziad Jarrah, rented small planes at local airports on the outskirts of New York and Washington DC for the purpose of familiarizing themselves with the intended targets. But at least one of these ventures did not go according to plan. During the second week of August, 2001, Hanjour attempted to rent a plane at Freeway Airport in Bowie, Maryland, about twenty miles from Washington. Although Hani presented his FAA license, the airport manager insisted for safety reasons that an instructor first accompany him on a test flight to confirm his piloting skills. During three such flights in a single-engine Cessna 172, instructors Sheri Baxter and Ben Conner observed what others had, before them : Hanjour had trouble controlling and landing the aircraft. Even though he had a license and a log book showing 600 hours of flight time, Freeway’s chief instructor Marcel Bernard refused to rent Hani a plane without additional lessons.30 Let us remember, this was just weeks before the 9/11 attack.

    The 9/11 Commission Report acknowledges Hani’s poor English and his sub-standard piloting skills.31 It also mentions that flight instructors had urged him to give up trying to become a pilot. But the report then dodges the crucial questions, which are : 1. Why did the FAA grant Hani Hanjour a pilot’s license in the first place ? 2. Who was responsible ? ; and 3. How did Hani come to have 600 hours of flight time in his log book ? The high number suggests that the log may have been falsified. But one will search the official report in vain for any discussion of these important questions. Instead of providing answers, the report cavalierly states that Hani qualified for a license because he “persevered.” But this is absurd. In fact, it is an obvious case of deception because as I’ve shown, Hanjour’s English and piloting skills never improved. What is more, the 9/11 Commission surely knew this. The basic facts were readily available, having been established by the press in open source accounts in the days and weeks following 9/11, long before the start of the official investigation.

    Hani’s license

    It now appears that Hanjour may have exploited a loophole in the FAA system to obtain his pilot’s license. For many years the FAA has allowed private contractors to certify pilots, and agency records show that Hani Hanjour did indeed obtain certification in this manner, that is, by hiring a private examiner. This was first reported by the Dallas Morning News in June 2002. According to the story, Hanjour was certified in April 1999 as an “Airplane Multi-Engine Land/Commercial Pilot” by Daryl Strong, one of the FAA’s 20,000 designated pilot examiners. 

    Les Dorr, an FAA official, defended the agency’s long-time policy of outsourcing the certification process. But a critic, Heather Awsumb, took issue with it. Awsumb is a spokesperson for the Professional Airways Systems Specialists (PASS) Union, which represents more than 11,000 FAA and Defense Department employees. She pointed out that the FAA does not have anywhere near enough staff to oversee the 20,000 designated inspectors, who have a financial interest in certifying as many pilots as possible. This might explain how Hani evaded the language requirement. Said Awsumb : “They receive between $200 and $300 for each flight check. If they get a reputation for being too tough, they won’t get any business.” She added that the present system allows “safety to be sold to the lowest bidder.”32

    While this might explain how Hani Hanjour obtained his pilot’s license, it does not begin to account for the final approach of Flight 77 (or whatever hit the Pentagon). Given the facts presented above, the official narrative cannot possibly be correct, because it is obvious that Hani Hanjour was completely incapable of flying a Boeing 757 airliner and, therefor, could not have crashed Flight 77 into the Pentagon at 530 mph on the morning of September 11. This brings us to the vital question : Who, then, was at the helm, if not Hani Hanjour ? 

    Notes

    14 Marc Fisher and Don Phillips, “On Flight 77 : ‘Our Plane is Being Hijacked’,” Washington Post, September 12, 2001.-

    15 Amy Goldstein, LenaH. Sun and George Lardner, Jr., “Hanjour an Unlikely Terrorist,” The Cape Cod Times, October 21, 2001.-

    16 Ibid.-

    17 Ibid.-

    18 Ibid.-

    19 Ibid.-

    20 Statement for the record : FBI Director Robert S. Mueller III, Joint Intelligence Committee Inquiry, Joint investigation into September 11, closed hearing, Joint House/Senate Intelligence Committee Hearing, June 18, 2002.-

    21 Ibid.-

    22 The 9/11 Commission Report, Final Report of the National Commission on Terrorist Attacks Upon the United States, W.W. Norton & Co., New York, 2004, pp. 226-227. One of the staff reports, not included in the final report, confirms the FBI document, and states that Hani Hanjour “completed flight training and received FAA pilot certification. Hanjour received his commercial multi-engine pilot certificate from the FAA in March 1999.” Steven Strasser, The 9/11 Investigations : Staff Reports of the 9/11 Commission, 2004, The Four Flights, Staff Statement No. 4, pp. 4-5.-

    23 “FAA Probed, Cleared Sept. 11 Hijacker in Early 2001,” FOX News, May 10, 2002.

    -24 Hani’s evaluation and other documentation of his time at Jet Tech were entered as evidence during the trial of Zacharias Moussaoui. Training Records, Hani Hanjour, B-737 Initial Ground Training, Class 01-3-021, Date : 2/8/01, Jet Tech International, posted at http://www.vaed.uscourts.gov/notable...on/PX00021.pdf

    -25 “FAA Probed, Cleared Sept. 11 Hijacker in Early 2001,” FOX News, May 10, 2002.

    -26 Ibid.-

    27 Jim Yardley, “A Trainee Noted for Incompetence,” New York Times, May 4, 2002.-

    28 “Report : 9/11 Hijacker Bypassed FAA,” AP story, June 13, 2002.-

    29 Ibid.-

    30 Thomas Frank, “Tracing Trail of Hijackers,” Newsday, September 23, 2001.-

    31 The 9/11 Commission Report, Final Report of the National Commission on Terrorist Attacks Upon the United States, W.W. Norton & Co., New York, 2004, pp. 226-227.-

    32 Kellie Lunney, “FAA contractors approved flight licenses for Sept. 11 suspect,” GovernmentExecutive.com, June 13, 2002.


  • Onegus Onegus 21 novembre 2010 00:30
    Qui parle de se voiler la face ou d’ignorer certaines piste ? Toutes les pistes sont étudiées par les chercheurs sérieux, aussi bien chez reopen que chez des gens comme Taïké Eilé sur avox et des dizaines d’autres aux USA et à travers le monde. Le danger est de tirer des conclusions hâtives ou orientées et de se focaliser sur certaines pistes (et chez certains c’est obsessionnel, cf une certaine nicole...)
    Attention aussi aux généralisations : « Israël » ou « mossad » est aussi réducteur que « USA » ou « CIA » quand il est fort probable que nous ayons affaire à des éléments voyous au sein d’entités très diverses... Les principes à observer ne sont pas du ressort de la morale ou du politiquement correct, mais bien de celui de la rigueur méthodologique et de l’objectivité rationnelle.
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